Guide for first time hobbyists

[alphamale]

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[alphamale]

povppapi ... My ATF!
(DATO with Reddi Wip!)
When you learn the game and learn how to connect the dots ......THIS is what you have to look forward to!
It's as close as you're gunna get to Heaven .... without droppin' dead!

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[alphamale]

Methinks, my brother mongers can see how I got religion ... and became a SHAMELESS, UNREPENTANT DATO (with Reddi Wip) AFICIONADO!
(Hey ... it was a tough job but ... Somebody Had to Do It!)

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[Sexaddict]

What does the front look like?

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[alphamale]

What does the front look like?

She's DDG!
She's Victoria's Secret Caliber!
(She got a lucky roll of the genetic dice!)
She's blessed with innate pulchritude!
She's sweet-natured; and she's good company, too!
She's got a certain je ne sais quoi!
She's gotta be the most-bodacious, most-bodylicious, most-sweet-tasting (all orifices) provider... on the friggin' planet!
(There is no higher level of mongering!)
SHE'S the GFE GOLD STANDARD!**



**
"This is a creature,
Would she become a sect, might quench the zeal
of all professors else; make proselytes
Of who she but bid follow."

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[alphamale]

Still a noob haven’t had my first experience yet. Been learning a lot here.

Mongering is analogous to the learning curve you go through when learning how to ride a bike!
Once you get the hang of it ... you never really forget how to do it!
It becomes second nature!

Still a noob haven’t had my first experience yet. Been learning a lot here.

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[solarphile]

All of this. Plus:

Brush your teeth right before
Groom your pubes
Trim your nails short and smooth
Dress up - business casual or better
Bring a gift
Learn how to eat pussy properly
Eat pineapples for a few days before

And if you’re going for a PS escort, use an agency like @trystagency for the first time, if not every time. There’s no guesswork about services or rates, no worrying if she’ll get back to you, no concerns about how old her pictures might be, no worrying about your deposit, etc.

On the gift:
How do you determine what to give / how much to spend? Is it like a tip, a certain percentage of the cost of the session? If a PS is 1500/hour, gift is roughly 300, that kind of thing?
For first dates/meets what is appropriate?

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[Sexaddict]

On the gift:
How do you determine what to give / how much to spend? Is it like a tip, a certain percentage of the cost of the session? If a PS is 1500/hour, gift is roughly 300, that kind of thing?
For first dates/meets what is appropriate?

I almost always tip $200 if I’ve been satisfied.

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[Deleted member 10784]

I usually don't treat it as a gratuity where I tip afterwards for good service. I give a gift beforehand, some girls I used to check their wishlist and order stuff before the date which always felt appreciated and personal but I've stopped that after an incident where the appt had to be cancelled for understandable reasons but I had already had gifts shipped. Now I'll at least bring the gift (in gift card form) in person so as to avoid awkward situations like that.

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[Swytypy]

On the gift:
How do you determine what to give / how much to spend? Is it like a tip, a certain percentage of the cost of the session? If a PS is 1500/hour, gift is roughly 300, that kind of thing?
For first dates/meets what is appropriate?

I don't "tip". I give a gift at the start. I've given gift cards and even cash and bought from Amazon wish lists in front of them. I find gift cards are best and easiest, and ladies appreciate them. I've given $100 a few times and $200 most of the time, regardless of their rate. I've also given $250 and even $300 a few times.

Not everyone gives a gift so anything is welcome. I think of it like the rate is what I pay for their time. The gift is my way of thanking them for spending their time with me, for what they've done for me in the past with their porn and/or communication, and/or as an advance appreciation for what we're about to do. Thanking her for being her, if that makes sense.

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[solarphile]

Very much a newb on this - just reached out to Tryst for my first meet. Trying not to over plan, but want to be prepared with an appropriate gift. I come from the "never show up empty handed" school of thought, as a guest (or as a host, in this case). I err on the side of generosity, typically, but don't want to make her uncomfortable or be ridiculously generous, sitting the bar too high should I want to see her again.
What was that about not over planning? LOL

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[alphamale]

On the gift:
How do you determine what to give / how much to spend? Is it like a tip, a certain percentage of the cost of the session? If a PS is 1500/hour, gift is roughly 300, that kind of thing?
For first dates/meets what is appropriate?

There are varying schools of thought on tipping!
One being:
You never tip the owner of the business ... only tip the employees!
(IMO a PS charging $1500 per ... is the owner of the business and should not be tipped!)
THIS was my modus operandi** with My DDG ATF (@ 350 per):
Why these mongers pay exorbitant rates for over-hyped, worn-out, over-the-hill pornstars ... is beyond me!
(If you're a savvy, street-smart monger @ the top of ur game ... there's mint-condition, DDG, best-in-show, sell-ur-soul-2-the-devil, K-Girl pussy to be had @ 350!)
Trust me ... on THIS ONE!
I KNOW of WHAT I SPEAK!
But, to each his own.
I rendezvoused with My ATF 78x!
I NEVER SHOWED UP EMPTY-HANDED!
I always showed up with flowers and chocolates (occasionally gourmet Korean pears )... and, put the donation in a Hallmark Signature Edition card (with nice crisp 20's all facing the same way) ... and enclosed a Mega Millions ticket!
(Is that considered a tip?)
If that lottery ticket hits ... that could be a 100 mil tip!
Now during the course of our rendezvous I bought her a Korean-English dictionary, Valentine's Day presents, Christmas presents, kimchi, oyster sauce, Korean noodles, and various other gifts!
And, when she expressed interest in going to Vegas .. I bought her a Vegas travel guide!
(Furthermore: If you really think about IT ... isn't licking her pussy and eating her asshole (with Reddi Wip) ... enough of a tip?
(Think about it!)
The most important thing is not to be totally classless and show up completely empty-handed and slap the donation on the nightstand!
(Providers hate to fuck classless, low-information mongers with no "game"!)




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The MO musta been somewhat effective!
She invited me back 77x!

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[Sexaddict]

I'm bumping this thread because I genuinely mean it:
Watching porn or really any adult material will ruin your session—Cialis, Viagra or not! Trust me, I've tried watching porn before a session, and it will prevent you from going another round. Avoid watching any porn on the day of a session at all costs.

This is for new gentlemen as well as experienced ones.

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[ace1225]

On the gift:
How do you determine what to give / how much to spend? Is it like a tip, a certain percentage of the cost of the session? If a PS is 1500/hour, gift is roughly 300, that kind of thing?
For first dates/meets what is appropriate?

Just to give my 2 cents on this, I’m not one for tipping extra cash. Nothing wrong with it, but I prefer to be given actual gifts for my birthday and try to do the same for providers.

Example, first time I saw Gizel James she had mentioned her favorite type of champagne. I showed up with not only the champagne (which I helped her drink while joking with her how much I personally dislike champagne lol), I also got her a monogrammed ice bucket and champagne glasses. My thought process is that people in general will remember who they got a specific gift or item from. But few will remember whoever gave them a $100 bill.

There’s a provider I usually see whenever I go to Vegas. I didn’t have a gift for her during our first session. However, while talking I discovered that she loves to read (something we have in common). So, every time since I always show up with a recent book o read and enjoyed, along with an uber eats gift card for $20, $50, $100, etc. however much I want to put on it at the time.

Don’t think too hard about this stuff imo. Don’t assume that you very client is buying extravagant gifts and that there’s some big rule about how much you need to be spending or tipping. It doesn’t work like that. Do what you can and she’ll appreciate it.

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[alphamale]

Let's get real!
Why wouldn't a monger want to show his ATF she's special?
By lavishing gifts on her!
WTF?
An ATF (by definition) deserves to be spoiled!
No?
(In some cases .... hopelessly spoiled!)
SHE EARNED IT!
A monger has to show her (in no uncertain terms) ... that such a designation has been bestowed upon her!
Being designated a discerning monger's ATF is a rarified status!
It is no mean achievement!
IT IS a RARE DISTINCTION!
(AND, It doesn't happen overnight!)
And, she's gotta earn IT!
She's gotta prove she's worthy!
ONLY The BEST of The BEST .... CAN DO IT!
She's gotta have GFE bona fides!
There's a lot of competition out there for our companionship and $$$!
They're all competing against each other.
TIS the NATURE of the BEAST!
In the game that we play ... there are no free passes... they are no givens!
Providers are judged on their merits (or lack thereof)!
(But in the end, The Cream Always Cums to The Top!)
In the hobby ... an ATF will ultimately emerge from the scrum!
IT'S NATURAL SELECTION!
The wheat will ultimately be separated from the chaff!
No?
Attaining ATF status requires dedication and commitment to a provider's (GFE) craft!
Get real!
(Some providers ... are just not up to the task!)
It is beyond their ken!
To be bestowed a discerning monger's ATF is an honor of the highest order!
There is no greater distinction!
It is a testament to a provider's GFE skill set and playbook!
Ya think?
An ATF's gotta have GFE "game"!
She's gotta bring IT ... EVERYTIME U STEP into HER ROOM!
(Discerning mongers have No Interest .... in FLYING 2ND CLASS!)
She's gotta earn her paycheck!
She's gotta be @ the top of her game and on point ... in all regards and aspects!
Compromising is not an option!
An ATF has to excel at her craft!
(Be always surgically-scrubbed ... all orifices always sweet-tasting and minty ready to be indulged in!)
She gotta separate herself from the pack!
She's gotta be able to separate herself .... from the common herd!
(That's what being designated an ATF ... IS ALL ABOUT!)
No?
She's gotta deliver the (GFE) goods!
(She's gotta be able to EXECUTE!)
She's gotta, earn, the #1 pole position!
I lavish My ATF with flowers, chocolates, Power Ball tickets, Hallmark Signature Edition cards, Korean-English dictionaries, Victoria's Secret outfits, calendars, Sil Sangju gourmet pears, oyster sauce, kimchi, Korean Noodle bowls and travel guides!
AND, if that weren't enough.... I lick her pussy and eat her asshole (with Reddi Wip)!
(A Man's Gotta Do ... What He's Gotta Do!)

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[alphamale]

Let's get real!
Why wouldn't a monger want to show his ATF she's special?
By lavishing gifts on her!
WTF?
An ATF (by definition) deserves to be spoiled!
No?
(In some cases .... hopelessly spoiled!)
SHE EARNED IT!
A monger has to show her (in no uncertain terms) ... that such a designation has been bestowed upon her!
Being designated a discerning monger's ATF is a rarified status!
It is no mean achievement!
IT IS a RARE DISTINCTION!
(AND, It doesn't happen overnight!)
And, she's gotta earn IT!
She's gotta prove she's worthy!
ONLY The BEST of The BEST .... CAN DO IT!
She's gotta have GFE bona fides!
There's a lot of competition out there for our companionship and $$$!
They're all competing against each other.
TIS the NATURE of the BEAST!
In the game that we play ... there are no free passes... they are no givens!
Providers are judged on their merits (or lack thereof)!
(But in the end, The Cream Always Cums to The Top!)
In the hobby ... an ATF will ultimately emerge from the scrum!
IT'S NATURAL SELECTION!
The wheat will ultimately be separated from the chaff!
No?
Attaining ATF status requires dedication and commitment to a provider's (GFE) craft!
Get real!
(Some providers ... are just not up to the task!)
It is beyond their ken!
To be bestowed a discerning monger's ATF is an honor of the highest order!
There is no greater distinction!
It is a testament to a provider's GFE skill set and playbook!
Ya think?
An ATF's gotta have GFE "game"!
She's gotta bring IT ... EVERYTIME U STEP into HER ROOM!
(Discerning mongers have No Interest .... in FLYING 2ND CLASS!)
She's gotta earn her paycheck!
She's gotta be @ the top of her game and on point ... in all regards and aspects!
Compromising is not an option!
An ATF has to excel at her craft!
(Be always surgically-scrubbed ... all orifices always sweet-tasting and minty ready to be indulged in!)
She gotta separate herself from the pack!
She's gotta be able to separate herself .... from the common herd!
(That's what being designated an ATF ... IS ALL ABOUT!)
No?
She's gotta deliver the (GFE) goods!
(She's gotta be able to EXECUTE!)
She's gotta, earn, the #1 pole position!
I lavish My ATF with flowers, chocolates, Power Ball tickets, Hallmark Signature Edition cards, Korean-English dictionaries, Victoria's Secret outfits, calendars, Sil Sangju gourmet pears, oyster sauce, kimchi, Korean Noodle bowls and travel guides!
AND, if that weren't enough.... I lick her pussy and eat her asshole (with Reddi Wip)!
(A Man's Gotta Do ... What He's Gotta Do!)

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[SugarD]

Stoopid noob question here. For out of town providers is the best arrangement to fly there instead of a FMTY arrangement? I figure it’s much less stress and hassle on the provider which might put them in a tired and grumpy mood. There a lot of scrumptious ladies in LA that I am interested in.

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[tj853]

Stoopid noob question here. For out of town providers is the best arrangement to fly there instead of a FMTY arrangement? I figure it’s much less stress and hassle on the provider which might put them in a tired and grumpy mood. There a lot of scrumptious ladies in LA that I am interested in.

Flying to LA is probably your best bet. That being said, if you live in a big market area like NYC it could be beneficial for them to take you up on the FMTY offer so they can leverage a tour that way and potentially earn a lot more. But if you live in the middle of nowhere, then probably not.

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[Sexaddict]

Stoopid noob question here. For out of town providers is the best arrangement to fly there instead of a FMTY arrangement? I figure it’s much less stress and hassle on the provider which might put them in a tired and grumpy mood. There a lot of scrumptious ladies in LA that I am interested in.

There are no stupid questions at all. When I first started, I didn’t know what was up or down—hence why I created this guide. We’ve all been new to the hobby at some point.

Secondly, I’d say it really depends on your mood, so to speak. Personally, I’d fly to LA, settle into an Airbnb for a week or two, and visit a few ladies. See the city WHILE visiting different ladies, it´s a two-in-one solution.

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[oc.businessman.33]

Stoopid noob question here. For out of town providers is the best arrangement to fly there instead of a FMTY arrangement? I figure it’s much less stress and hassle on the provider which might put them in a tired and grumpy mood. There a lot of scrumptious ladies in LA that I am interested in.

There’s no such thing as a stupid question. Everyone starts somewhere, and I’m happy to help.

FMTY (Fly Me to You) is an excellent option if you're looking to meet a provider who isn’t local to your area. Alternatively, if you live in a high-traffic or tourist-friendly city, you might consider sponsoring a tour. This type of arrangement often comes with several perks, including increased availability and personalized experiences.

If you’re working with an agency, I recommend asking the booking agent directly about tour sponsorships. You can also search “sponsored tour” in the forum search bar to find posts from other members who’ve shared their experiences with this approach.

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