Which country?I prefer Asia because the girls give the best service for price. My experience in the rest of the world is limited but I have enough of an impression to know where my preferences best fit.
US is possible to get the highest highs, but damn does it cost a pretty penny. In Asia, spending some time learning foreign languages go a long way.
For most of us who has 9-5 jobs our employers will NOT be giving us more for merit increase and frankly that 3-5% can never offset inflation or increase in cost of living. Bonus are not what it used to be in my world since it heavily dependent upon the economy. We have been in a recession since 2024 and inflation has gone through the roof. Now with this war it will drive the cost of transportation up which leaves even less in budget for hobbying. I agree with the demand and supply and I am sure there are still people who have done and is still doing extremely well and have so much money not to care. Yet I would say the dynamics would be changing because if demand drops and there is overwhelming supply of girls they can either go after only those 2-4% elite to fulfill their asking price but given massive choices would many choose to repeat with the same girls ? I doubt it. Eventually the girls tactics would have to change if they want to recap their lost market share ( of the middle class target market).A $2000 floor price is insane but then again, supply/demand. It all comes down to that.
For most porn stars and high-end providers, the "middle class" is not their target market.Eventually the girls tactics would have to change if they want to recap their lost market share ( of the middle class target market).
The future of seeing escorts lays in Asia and South AmericaFor most of us who has 9-5 jobs our employers will NOT be giving us more for merit increase and frankly that 3-5% can never offset inflation or increase in cost of living. Bonus are not what it used to be in my world since it heavily dependent upon the economy. We have been in a recession since 2024 and inflation has gone through the roof. Now with this war it will drive the cost of transportation up which leaves even less in budget for hobbying. I agree with the demand and supply and I am sure there are still people who have done and is still doing extremely well and have so much money not to care. Yet I would say the dynamics would be changing because if demand drops and there is overwhelming supply of girls they can either go after only those 2-4% elite to fulfill their asking price but given massive choices would many choose to repeat with the same girls ? I doubt it. Eventually the girls tactics would have to change if they want to recap their lost market share ( of the middle class target market).
At least that is my wishful thinking.
And they’re sorely mistaken if they only chase high rollers because they are far and few in between with more options. There’s a reason why the majority of providers have to advertise to the general public.For most porn stars and high-end providers, the "middle class" is not their target market.
My point exactly - target market for mass appeal and get more customers who can afford youAnd they’re sorely mistaken if they only chase high rollers because they are far and few in between with more options. There’s a reason why the majority of providers have to advertise to the general public.
It’s the same problem with women who only want to date 6ft millionaires with 8+ inch dicks, good luck finding one that wants you and even more luck if he wants to keep you.
This is where for me it’s always picking the right one. I spend and I’m middle class. The one thing that a lot of the smart pornstars and high end escorts know. It’s not how much money they are showing but how much they are spending. You don’t get rich by giving it away.For most porn stars and high-end providers, the "middle class" is not their target market.
I wouldn’t say it that thought process is off base tbh. Most women wouldn’t want to leave money on the table and giving up a large market share of middle class to upper class guys in favor of 2-4% elite men won’t bode well for them in the long run. That even amongst escorts there is quite some competition that these women have to engage in considering the demographics, location, and their own personal upkeep. There are quite a bit of girls, but their target demographic is a short supply. Even with luxury services you can very well price out a large portion of easy cash flow that would be foolish to give up in favor of trying to land a whale of a SD. Then tack on name brand recognition as well, which in order to get to that point there has to be significant branding, promo, personal investment through other social streams (Instagram, twitch, YouTube, Porn, etc.) Look at a Kiara Mia, for example, she charged absurd prices for the longest until she had to scale it back. Now truthfully, women who’ve made their coin don’t necessarily have to scale back because this industry is technically recision proof, but if their idea is to maximize revenue then price point needs to reevaluated at some point. Long and short of it is this —women with enough cache and healthy clientele base CAN AND WILL raise their prices and justify them with inflation and rising costs. Most women could do so in theory, but the justification will not necessarily be there. If most not all girls made their services $2000 floor price a lot of women would starved themselves out of the profession unless they work other jobs to supplement their income. Which would defeat the purpose of them coming into this lifestyle to begin with. Look no further than Onlyfans….y'all see how Onlyfans is saturated and only few creators make bank off their content. The same principle would apply as some girls can market themselves better than others and then factor personal taste, location, demographic, services offered. You can see it becoming more and more newbies or new clients getting screwed in favor of existing ones favoring loyalty and consistency among providers above all elseFor most of us who has 9-5 jobs our employers will NOT be giving us more for merit increase and frankly that 3-5% can never offset inflation or increase in cost of living. Bonus are not what it used to be in my world since it heavily dependent upon the economy. We have been in a recession since 2024 and inflation has gone through the roof. Now with this war it will drive the cost of transportation up which leaves even less in budget for hobbying. I agree with the demand and supply and I am sure there are still people who have done and is still doing extremely well and have so much money not to care. Yet I would say the dynamics would be changing because if demand drops and there is overwhelming supply of girls they can either go after only those 2-4% elite to fulfill their asking price but given massive choices would many choose to repeat with the same girls ? I doubt it. Eventually the girls tactics would have to change if they want to recap their lost market share ( of the middle class target market).
At least that is my wishful thinking.
This misses point, though. More customers who can afford her doesn’t necessarily mean more overall customers or even enough additional customers to cover the losses she’d have from lowering her rate. Just look at the base rate of most porn star providers these days - $1,500/hour. If someone decided to target a different market and ask for $1,000/hour, she’d have to do 3 hours of bookings to make the same income she’d previously get in 2 hours without any guarantee that she’d eventually earn more. I’m not saying there’s no merit or gains with this approach but this portion of the conversation was driven by @connman talking about porn stars and high end companions not targeting the middle class. There’s also some cachet to keeping the illusion of exclusivity, even if it means overall less income now, to protect the value of her time and image. Not everyone is looking for volume.My point exactly - target market for mass appeal and get more customers who can afford you
This is a very interesting and astute observation. I think most women who do have high prices tend to agree with this sentiment if only for the fact that they know most may not be regulars per say but will spend the money to see them treating them more valuably then let’s say individual with money to blow. I’d imagine there are lot of high end companions that lean into the fact that they see a moderate volume of men that live within the middle class and can see them on occasion as oppose to finding a big fish that may not wish to see them after the one time in favor of another. Like most of us here, I tend to put women in this hobby into 3 categories: local, elite companions, pornstars. So in my area you’re looking at for locals the Miami minimum would be around $300-500 an hour. For the Elite you’re looking about $800-1200 an hour. And for the pornstars we all know can run you $1500-3000. Generally rule of thumb that girls in the subsequent categories cannot exceed $200 outside of that range and if they do it would have to have some degree of value I would have to be able to extract to justify spending the additional money. For example, a local charging $700 would be a no go for me if the services are basic, because I could have just went with an Elite Companion for $100 more. Which even if you argue the services may be similar, I would counter that there may be a far better opportunity to run in a circle to get me in contact with another I would like to get at. So there’s opportunity cost that I’d factor into the equation as well.This is where for me it’s always picking the right one. I spend and I’m middle class. The one thing that a lot of the smart pornstars and high end escorts know. It’s not how much money they are showing but how much they are spending. You don’t get rich by giving it away.
A lot of the best providers know the middle class spend and treat pretty well.
It’s the ones who haven’t learned this yet that I try to make sure I don’t see.
Lots of respect and support for all the amazing professionals that do an awesome job.