Would it benefit this hobby if Onlyfans was banned?

[tinman]

Ok… I never heard of this Jesh by Jesh dude until your comment and now I’m confused. Isn’t he just doing what we would all like to do by booking any PS he wants, filming them and blurring out his face? Those aren’t even all escorts.

I was doing ok until I scrolled and saw Teanna Trump… then I through my phone.

How are people able to do this? I thought posting videos was a no-no

You setup a production studio get a LLC or inc and all the videos now are commercial and not for private use.

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[Deleted member 1505]

The other one that I know of who’s been pretty successful besides JeshByJesh is 2Drops. He was high spending client and decided to create his own site. All he does is POV BJ with facials/golden showers. Never shows his face and has all the big names shooting with him.

I was told 2Drops pays the girls really really well so I think that contributes to top girls shooting with him. The thing is to get started it might be tough to make any money. You need to offset the girls fees which would be higher because you aren’t a major studio, along with other expenses. Probably takes a few big names and decent following to offset model fees, model travel, equipment, location, etc

Yea… the problem is, I would shoot porn for an agency if they would just let me hide my face smh

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[Deleted member 1607]

Yea… the problem is, I would shoot porn for an agency if they would just let me hide my face smh

Honestly man…what’s stopping you lol. Maybe not an agency or studio but doing your own thing.

POV is kinda getting a lot of play now. If you can pay the girls fees, shoot high quality content, be clean, and perform for a reasonable amount of time there is nothing stopping you

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[however]

I've just seen this now, seems to have very high production value and content. Plus he works with all the elite talents: Riley Steele (Porn Companions), Gianna Dior (Porn Companions), Emma Hix, Gina Valentina, Nicole Aniston, Harley Dean (Porn Companions), Amia Miley etc. My question then becomes, why aren't more people doing this? I think someone mentioned in one of these forums the other day how there's another guy that does similar but I forget the name of the site. He doesn't show his face and he still gets to hook up with the pornstars. If the only difference between this and Escort bookings is a model release form, wouldn't it be cheaper to go through this process? Or are there lots of additional costs that make it not worthwhile?

IIRC, Danny Ocean Adventures started the same way. I didn't follow along closely, but he was on TER years ago then started talking about creating his own site. He booked some girls I’d love to have seen - Melissa Moore, Amirah Adara, Tara Ashley.

I’m not sure it’s cheaper, maybe, but it certainly entails a lot more work and getting comfortable with having some personal details (body type, tattoos, dick size) out there for all to see.

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[Deleted member 1505]

Honestly man…what’s stopping you lol. Maybe not an agency or studio but doing your own thing.

POV is kinda getting a lot of play now. If you can pay the girls fees, shoot high quality content, be clean, and perform for a reasonable amount of time there is nothing stopping you

Nothing other than gaining consent.

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[sezz66]

Yes, absolutely. Girls would be forced to come back to escorting.

But do we really want the ones "forced" into it?

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[sezz66]

OF is on the path to purge hardcore content away from their platform anyhow cause it will make them TONS more money. The big switch is coming. and even if platforms like OF were just all the sudden banned Models have a taste of what its like to create their own content and the money they can make by doing in on their own.
They would just go back to the days of having their own personal website and posting all their content there.

The plain and simple fact is this. When a model can make $2,000 by making her own content and uploading it to her site and doing some marketing while she sits on her couch petting her cat...OR getting all dolled up and going out and fucking a stranger....she is gonna always choose the cat

This is what I always thought. So why do any of these women escort anyway??? I still don't get it.

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[big.tits.lover]

But do we really want the ones "forced" into it?

Yes

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[big.tits.lover]

The other one that I know of who’s been pretty successful besides JeshByJesh is 2Drops. He was high spending client and decided to create his own site. All he does is POV BJ with facials/golden showers. Never shows his face and has all the big names shooting with him.

I was told 2Drops pays the girls really really well so I think that contributes to top girls shooting with him. The thing is to get started it might be tough to make any money. You need to offset the girls fees which would be higher because you aren’t a major studio, along with other expenses. Probably takes a few big names and decent following to offset model fees, model travel, equipment, location, etc

I never heard of either of them until this thread. I went and checked both of their websites and their dicks are way too small for porn. I have no idea who pays for those. Although they both have had some great talent.

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[PorkysReturn]

I never heard of either of them until this thread. I went and checked both of their websites and their dicks are way too small for porn. I have no idea who pays for those. Although they both have had some great talent.

technially their dicks arent to small for porn now lol

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[big.tits.lover]

technially their dick arent to small for porn now lol

Not really. Neither one of those guys could ever sign with a major production company like brazzers. Anyone can upload a video to the internet and call themselves a pornstar if those are your standards.

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[PorkysReturn]

Not really. Neither one of those guys could ever sign with a major production company like brazzers. Anyone can upload a video to the internet and call themselves a pornstar if those are your standards.

Its all about the girls imo and 2 drops is a bit more legit than the other guy mentioned. He did the legwork and is now technically a porn star as its a catch all term

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[thejordanmaxx]

Yes

This is a disturbing reply.

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[big.tits.lover]

This is a disturbing reply.

That’s your opinion. As a guy who pays to fuck pornstars, the A list girls are gone from escorting. Why do you think that is?

Why do you think that most top girls that were escorting like Ava Addams and Rachel Starr are gone from private meetings and are never coming back? It’s because they no longer have enough financial incentive to fuck some middle aged, slightly overweight white guy for 2k an hour anymore and be forced to pretend they like it because they are probably making at least 80 to 100k a month on Onlyfans to shoot videos with nothing more than their cell phone.

They don’t have to book flights, hotels and deal with a booking agent like Keith anymore. They are making a lot more money and they don’t even need to leave their homes. I’m happy for them that they are financially secure and will be comfortable for the rest of their lives but I’d be lying if a large part of me doesn’t wish that I could have Rachel Starr bent over in front of me the next time she tours. But that won’t happen now. I wasn’t wishing for them to be sold into sex slavery but the reality is the top girls are gone from escorting because of Onlyfans.

Now, you are nice enough to post her so I’m going to respect @trystagency for the effort he puts in on our behalf and not get into the real truth.

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[thejordanmaxx]

That’s your opinion. As a guy who pays to fuck pornstars, the A list girls are gone from escorting. Why do you think that is?

Why do you think that most top girls that were escorting like Ava Addams and Rachel Starr are gone from private meetings and are never coming back? It’s because they no longer have enough financial incentive to fuck some middle aged, slightly overweight white guy for 2k an hour anymore and be forced to pretend they like it because they are probably making at least 80 to 100k a month on Onlyfans to shoot videos with nothing more than their cell phone.

They don’t have to book flights, hotels and deal with a booking agent like Keith anymore. They are making a lot more money and they don’t even need to leave their homes. I’m happy for them that they are financially secure and will be comfortable for the rest of their lives but I’d be lying if a large part of me doesn’t wish that I could have Rachel Starr bent over in front of me the next time she tours. But that won’t happen now. I wasn’t wishing for them to be sold into sex slavery but the reality is the top girls are gone from escorting because of Onlyfans.

Now, you are nice enough to post her so I’m going to respect @trystagency for the effort he puts in on our behalf and not get into the real truth.

You used the word “forced” in your first comment, and then doubled-down and said “yes” when another poster called you out on it. That’s what I found disturbing. I’m sorry if you feel that the “top girls” aren’t escorting anymore, maybe it’s time for you to find a new favorite and stop living in the past? Also, I’m not sure why you tagged @trystagency in this post?

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[big.tits.lover]

You used the word “forced” in your first comment, and then doubled-down and said “yes” when another poster called you out on it. That’s what I found disturbing. I’m sorry if you feel that the “top girls” aren’t escorting anymore, maybe it’s time for you to find a new favorite and stop living in the past? Also, I’m not sure why you tagged @trystagency in this post?

I have been “forced” to go to a job I hated in order to maintain my standard of living but I went to that job everyday because I like snorting coke and fucking expensive prostitutes. I was no more forced to go that job than the top girls were “forced” to escort. Anyone should have realized that is what I meant.

I wasn’t advocating for young girls to be lured into another country with the promise of a job and then told they had to fuck strangers all day. The only guy in porn who I’m aware of that actually trafficked women is that scumbag Derek Hay. Keith seems to be a not too distant second with his empty threats and bully tactics.

I despise Keith but I don’t think anyone will top his roster. That last crop of girls from the early 2010’s (of which he had most of them at one time) is the last group that could be considered “pornstars.”

I tagged tryst agency because you are a well known performer by people who met the girls privately and you are in demand and drive traffic to his message board. I’m not going to insult you and drive you away which will lower traffic on this forum and therefore cost him business and money so this is as deep as I’ll go.

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[thejordanmaxx]

I have been “forced” to go to a job I hated in order to maintain my standard of living but I went to that job everyday because I like snorting coke and fucking expensive prostitutes. I was no more forced to go that job than the top girls were “forced” to escort. Anyone should have realized that is what I meant.

I wasn’t advocating for young girls to be lured into another country with the promise of a job and then told they had to fuck strangers all day. The only guy in porn who I’m aware of that actually trafficked women is that scumbag Derek Hay. Keith seems to be a not too distant second with his empty threats and bully tactics.

I despise Keith but I don’t think anyone will top his roster. That last crop of girls from the early 2010’s (of which he had most of them at one time) is the last group that could be considered “pornstars.”

I tagged tryst agency because you are a well known performer by people who met the girls privately and you are in demand and drive traffic to his message board. I’m not going to insult you and drive traffic and therefore money away from him and his business, so this is as deep as I’ll go.

I’m not represented by @trystagency, at this time, I’m independent.

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[big.tits.lover]

I’m not represented by @trystagency, at this time, I’m independent.

Sure but you still post here and a certain number of people here will renew their membership because you or girls like you post here.

If people like me are disrespectful to performers like you, you won’t post here and membership renewals will probably be lower. I’m not interested in costing a guy who works so hard any money.

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[sezz66]

I am very entertained by this thread.

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[thejordanmaxx]

Sure but you still post here and a certain number of people here will renew their membership because you or girls like you post here.

If people like me are disrespectful to performers like you, you won’t post here and membership renewals will probably be lower. I’m not interested in costing a guy who works so hard any money.

You sound like you don’t even like women tbh. I’m glad you’re worried about another man’s income, but not the well-being of the “top girls.” Did you ever think that maybe it’s not OF and it’s just that after awhile, the work becomes draining and no amount of effort or money makes it seem worth it?

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