Would it benefit this hobby if Onlyfans was banned?

[Sexaddict]

Ever since onlyfans started more and more escorts have switched over to only doing onlyfans, this is not a good trend for us hoobyists.

How do you see it...

Ever since onlyfans started more and more escorts have switched over to only doing onlyfans, this is not a good trend for us hoobyists.

How do you see it? Would it be good for the hobby if Onlyfans (and their counterparts) were banned?

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[big.tits.lover]

Yes, absolutely. Girls would be forced to come back to escorting.

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[AbeFroman]

YES

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[10brokentoes]

Yes, onlyfans ruined the hobby, as well as good porn.

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[mcsylv]

Are you saying if specifically Onlyfans the website was banned? Or are you saying all OF-type websites, like Fansly, Patreon, etc were banned? And are you talking about banned in the USA where you can't get to it without a VPN, or banned as in you're going back in time and erasing the concept before it ever became a thing? These are important because the answers vary wildly lol.

If only OF was banned, then it's useless because people would just move to Fansly or something.

If these sites were just banned in the USA, then you'd just have people using VPN's to still access them. It's 2023, VPN providers are so common they advertise on fucking Youtube channels lol. Ever seen a Surfshark or Nord VPN ad? They've made it so accessible, most everybody can download and use one, it's not some black box shit like it would have been 10 years ago.

If all of those types of sites were banned worldwide and new ones that pop up would be banned as well, then you'd just have girls advertising their private Snapchats or something through their IG and Twitter accounts. The train has left the station, women have figured out they can get men to pay for feet pics en mass from the comfort of their home. They're not coming back to the streets to suck dick for $100. Companies would pop up managing private Snapchats like they manage OF now. Sure, the reach of a private Snapchat is not the same because the app itself isn't built to do what OF does, such as things like not being able to take direct payments, not being able to send mass paywalled porn to people to unlock, etc. Creators wouldn't be making the tens of thousands a month they currently do, they'd only make thousands a month, but that's enough to live on. Rich sugar daddies found on Seeking or through IG would make up the rest. There might be some girls coming back to fucking the common man for money escort-style, but not as many as you'd expect. If emails were banned, we wouldn't go back to faxing people. We'd text or Whatsapp pictures or something.

The only way you'd go back to what it once was, when the times were good and the pussy was plenty, would be to go back in time and make sure the concept of OF never comes into existence. Infinity Wars, porno style. Only Iron Man and Captain America can save us from Tha-Link in Bio!-nos

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[lucky_at_one_time]

Are you saying if specifically Onlyfans the website was banned? Or are you saying all OF-type websites, like Fansly, Patreon, etc were banned? And are you talking about banned in the USA where you can't get to it without a VPN, or banned as in you're going back in time and erasing the concept before it ever became a thing? These are important because the answers vary wildly lol.

If only OF was banned, then it's useless because people would just move to Fansly or something.

If these sites were just banned in the USA, then you'd just have people using VPN's to still access them. It's 2023, VPN providers are so common they advertise on fucking Youtube channels lol. Ever seen a Surfshark or Nord VPN ad? They've made it so accessible, most everybody can download and use one, it's not some black box shit like it would have been 10 years ago.

If all of those types of sites were banned worldwide and new ones that pop up would be banned as well, then you'd just have girls advertising their private Snapchats or something through their IG and Twitter accounts. The train has left the station, women have figured out they can get men to pay for feet pics en mass from the comfort of their home. They're not coming back to the streets to suck dick for $100. Companies would pop up managing private Snapchats like they manage OF now. Sure, the reach of a private Snapchat is not the same because the app itself isn't built to do what OF does, such as things like not being able to take direct payments, not being able to send mass paywalled porn to people to unlock, etc. Creators wouldn't be making the tens of thousands a month they currently do, they'd only make thousands a month, but that's enough to live on. Rich sugar daddies found on Seeking or through IG would make up the rest. There might be some girls coming back to fucking the common man for money escort-style, but not as many as you'd expect. If emails were banned, we wouldn't go back to faxing people. We'd text or Whatsapp pictures or something.

If these sites were just banned in the USA, then you'd just have people using VPN's to still access them. It's 2023, VPN providers are so common they advertise on fucking Youtube channels lol. Ever seen a Surfshark or Nord VPN ad? They've made it so accessible, most everybody can download and use one, it's not some black box shit like it would have been 10 years ago.

The only way you'd go back to what it once was, when the times were good and the pussy was plenty, would be to go back in time and make sure the concept of OF never comes into existence. Infinity Wars, porno style. Only Iron Man and Captain America can save us from Tha-Link in Bio!-nos

I think switching from Only Fans to other platforms is a big task (if they only had OnlyFans) which they can't take risk I think some will join escorting I believe switching to other platforms will work if some girls have established Fansly accounts.

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[mcsylv]

I think switching from Only Fans to other platforms is a big task (if they only had OnlyFans) which they can't take risk I think some will join escorting I believe switching to other platforms will work if some girls have established Fansly accounts.

If they had big OF accounts, most will already be driving traffic to it from somewhere. IG, Twitter, Twitch, something. They'd just drive the traffic to Fansly instead.

If Amouranth had her OF banned and the feds also locked up the millions she's made for some reason so she had to earn more money, she's still not popping up on Tryst to fuck you guys lol. She's just going to start a Fansly and tell people to go there. I think she may already have a Fansly as a backup, but just saying if all she had was OF.

Even in the VERY unlikely event someone ONLY had their OF account and no other significant social media, and if they had to start all over on Fansly, they would only escort for a short amount of time, maybe a year, to get their new Fansly revenue built up again to live off of.

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[tywin22]

Onlyfans is just an income stream. On top of the money they get from mainstream scenes (~$1500-$2500 per scene) it allows performers to make more money with relatively less effort. A mainstream scene takes a whole day, from makeup to stills and positions etc, whereas they can make that kind of money daily through paid content on Onlyfans.

Onlyfans also acts as a funnel; performers who do mainstream scenes have hundreds of thousands of followers, they can't realistically interact with them. It's easier for performers to engage subscribers who tip them on Onlyfans than it is for them to respond to the thousands of DM requests they receive. This process also allows them to progress the lead to additional revenue: more tips, more paid content, resubbing, custom content and if we're lucky, off-platform engagement in the form of escorting. Regardless of how much they make from subscribers, escorting (1500 an hour) is the highest revenue per minute income stream they have available, and Onlyfans makes it easier to access that, at least until @trystagency signs them up

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[lucky_at_one_time]

Onlyfans is just an income stream. On top of the money they get from mainstream scenes (~$1500-$2500 per scene) it allows performers to make more money with relatively less effort. A mainstream scene takes a whole day, from makeup to stills and positions etc, whereas they can make that kind of money daily through paid content on Onlyfans.

Onlyfans also acts as a funnel; performers who do mainstream scenes have hundreds of thousands of followers, they can't realistically interact with them. It's easier for performers to engage subscribers who tip them on Onlyfans than it is for them to respond to the thousands of DM requests they receive. This process also allows them to progress the lead to additional revenue: more tips, more paid content, resubbing, custom content and if we're lucky, off-platform engagement in the form of escorting. Regardless of how much they make from subscribers, escorting (1500 an hour) is the highest revenue per minute income stream they have available, and Onlyfans makes it easier to access that, at least until @trystagency signs them up

They have recently started pushing "Fuck a Fan" as part of marketing trend in Only Fans to gain subs I think sooner or later OF might replace Porn Industry because of too much independent girls are getting but nowadays what we see is new and rising stars makes a debut scene and breakthrough happens and jump to escorting and also bigger porn stars who have well established followers on Only Fans joining the game too so they are now starting to learn escort is an easier access to earn lot of money and I can expect some bigger stars join escorting by 2024 along with newer rise and upcoming ones too.

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[trystagency]

OF is on the path to purge hardcore content away from their platform anyhow cause it will make them TONS more money. The big switch is coming. and even if platforms like OF were just all the sudden banned Models have a taste of what its like to create their own content and the money they can make by doing in on their own.
They would just go back to the days of having their own personal website and posting all their content there.

The plain and simple fact is this. When a model can make $2,000 by making her own content and uploading it to her site and doing some marketing while she sits on her couch petting her cat...OR getting all dolled up and going out and fucking a stranger....she is gonna always choose the cat

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[lucky_at_one_time]

OF is on the path to purge hardcore content away from their platform anyhow cause it will make them TONS more money. The big switch is coming. and even if platforms like OF were just all the sudden banned Models have a taste of what its like to create their own content and the money they can make by doing in on their own.
They would just go back to the days of having their own personal website and posting all their content there.

The plain and simple fact is this. When a model can make $2,000 by making her own content and uploading it to her site and doing some marketing while she sits on her couch petting her cat...OR getting all dolled up and going out and fucking a stranger....she is gonna always choose the cat

Well this explanation makes a lot of sense now. @trystagency

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[PorkysReturn]

I always theorized if OF was as much of a windfall as people said these women wouldnt be escorting. Some of these girls HATE escorting but need to keep doing it. Also agencies take huge portions of the money.

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[miguelrivera55]

If OF is gone, expect rates to increase to cover their income loss.

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[mcsylv]

Yea I don't think anything will ever cause rates to go down over time in the SW industry, at least not for girls that are hot. Sure you can always get a $20 BJ from a toothless crackwhore streetwalker, but that's not the same.

I laugh when dudes on other forums are like "Stupid feds with their COVID stimulus/Bitcoin bros/simps ruining the market! I used to be able to get 18yo pussy for $200! It's okay the end of COVID/crypto slump/student loans coming back will get things back into line, and we'll have our cheap hot tight teens again!"

It's been 3 years since COVID, and even before COVID I've never seen prices go down from 2015 when I started hobbying until now.

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[tinman]

There is no way we can go back in time to stop OF or the concept of OF from happening - so in moving forward the only reason why certain pornstars will decide to see some of us is certainly about the money and whether they like you as a person as they can be choosy on who they spend their time with.

The alternative is like that dude from Jesh by Jesh - turning his own hobby sessions into a revenue generating content (filming himself fucking the pornstars he hires).

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[tywin22]

There is no way we can go back in time to stop OF or the concept of OF from happening - so in moving forward the only reason why certain pornstars will decide to see some of us is certainly about the money and whether they like you as a person as they can be choosy on who they spend their time with.

The alternative is like that dude from Jesh by Jesh - turning his own hobby sessions into a revenue generating content (filming himself fucking the pornstars he hires).

I've just seen this now, seems to have very high production value and content. Plus he works with all the elite talents: Riley Steele (Porn Companions), Gianna Dior (Porn Companions), Emma Hix, Gina Valentina, Nicole Aniston, Harley Dean (Porn Companions), Amia Miley etc. My question then becomes, why aren't more people doing this? I think someone mentioned in one of these forums the other day how there's another guy that does similar but I forget the name of the site. He doesn't show his face and he still gets to hook up with the pornstars. If the only difference between this and Escort bookings is a model release form, wouldn't it be cheaper to go through this process? Or are there lots of additional costs that make it not worthwhile?

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[Deleted member 1607]

I've just seen this now, seems to have very high production value and content. Plus he works with all the elite talents: Riley Steele (Porn Companions), Gianna Dior (Porn Companions), Emma Hix, Gina Valentina, Nicole Aniston, Harley Dean (Porn Companions), Amia Miley etc. My question then becomes, why aren't more people doing this? I think someone mentioned in one of these forums the other day how there's another guy that does similar but I forget the name of the site. He doesn't show his face and he still gets to hook up with the pornstars. If the only difference between this and Escort bookings is a model release form, wouldn't it be cheaper to go through this process? Or are there lots of additional costs that make it not worthwhile?

The other one that I know of who’s been pretty successful besides JeshByJesh is 2Drops. He was high spending client and decided to create his own site. All he does is POV BJ with facials/golden showers. Never shows his face and has all the big names shooting with him.

I was told 2Drops pays the girls really really well so I think that contributes to top girls shooting with him. The thing is to get started it might be tough to make any money. You need to offset the girls fees which would be higher because you aren’t a major studio, along with other expenses. Probably takes a few big names and decent following to offset model fees, model travel, equipment, location, etc

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[tywin22]

The other one that I know of who’s been pretty successful besides JeshByJesh is 2Drops. He was high spending client and decided to create his own site. All he does is POV BJ with facials/golden showers. Never shows his face and has all the big names shooting with him.

I was told 2Drops pays the girls really really well so I think that contributes to top girls shooting with him. The thing is to get started it might be tough to make any money. You need to offset the girls fees which would be higher because you aren’t a major studio, along with other expenses. Probably takes a few big names and decent following to offset model fees, model travel, equipment, location, etc

Ah that makes sense. I suppose that's how most new sites/imprint start off, have to pay above market if you're not signed to an established agency like Hussie/Spiegler/Motley etc. But I suppose if what you want to do is bang these girls and maybe recoup some money it makes sense. This Jesh guy content seems to have been from a few years ago though so I don't know if such a model still works. That being said, if you want filming rights then model release plus usual rate may work out cheaper. The major benefits I saw was he was banging girls like Amia Miley who are hard to get

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[tinman]

One thing I have been reading up on is how AI sites may eventually take over and OF among other sites may soon go out of business because AI can create even hotter girls and recreate some scenes so erotic that many will pay to subscribe. I think when that day comes there will be wholesale price for a lot of hot girls when they cannot compete with AI generated porn ( cost is going to be way cheaper than paying these content creators).

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[Deleted member 1505]

There is no way we can go back in time to stop OF or the concept of OF from happening - so in moving forward the only reason why certain pornstars will decide to see some of us is certainly about the money and whether they like you as a person as they can be choosy on who they spend their time with.

The alternative is like that dude from Jesh by Jesh - turning his own hobby sessions into a revenue generating content (filming himself fucking the pornstars he hires).

Ok… I never heard of this Jesh by Jesh dude until your comment and now I’m confused. Isn’t he just doing what we would all like to do by booking any PS he wants, filming them and blurring out his face? Those aren’t even all escorts.

I was doing ok until I scrolled and saw Teanna Trump… then I through my phone.

How are people able to do this? I thought posting videos was a no-no

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