What was it like back in the old days?

[Hentai_Hibiki]

If we’re fortunate to have anyone who saw pornstars before our modern platforms and agencies (say prior 2010-ish), could you tell us if it was way more...

If we’re fortunate to have anyone who saw pornstars before our modern platforms and agencies (say prior 2010-ish), could you tell us if it was way more exclusive, secretive, and expensive back then?

If that was the case when would you say the golden era started (or ended?)

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[6lover9]

I can take you back to the 1990s and early 2000s. Note that by the early/mid 2000s there was already TER and agencies like TLC. At the time there was real money for a PS in the strip club feature tour. More often than not a top name PS would be the feature in clubs in LA (duh) and in NY. The clubs flew them in, put them up, and then made money on the increased attendance and the increased take they got from the lap dances which were 2x or 3x the usual price. To get an escort session with a PS took some cultivation at the club, some lap dances, being there multiple times. Once you got them to see you once it typically was a go for every time they were in town. Cost, even with inflation was waaaayyyyyyyy cheaper. Going rate was around $300/hr which is about $750 in today's dollars. Plus meets were either after they were done which almost always just led to an overnight for 1k or so or a late morning meet before they had to be at the club. They might be tired at the end of their shift, but you pretty much knew you were the only client either in the morning or at night. First gal I met this way was Victoria Paris. She in turn passed along introductions to her friends (and keep in mind the porn world was much smaller back then).

Some enterprising gals did have little ads in place like the village voice but never tried those, seemed dicey.

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[Hentai_Hibiki]

Thanks I only got the tail end of the stripper tour and only got to see Bridgette B and Asa Akira, which i think both I highly doubt I would’ve been able to hobby with.

I am disappointed I didn’t win the lap dance raffle with Asa but I did get to pull her panties out of her pussy with my teeth! Took a photo with her and got her stripper glitter all over me.

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[theeaglekid]

Thanks I only got the tail end of the stripper tour and only got to see Bridgette B and Asa Akira, which i think both I highly doubt I would’ve been able to hobby with.

I am disappointed I didn’t win the lap dance raffle with Asa but I did get to pull her panties out of her pussy with my teeth! Took a photo with her and got her stripper glitter all over me.

Asa Akira specifically only had a very short stint at providing, as she did not enjoy it/felt uncomfortable (according to her book)

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[Hentai_Hibiki]

Asa Akira specifically only had a very short stint at providing, as she did not enjoy it/felt uncomfortable (according to her book)

Wasn’t really a stint as so much as a trial as I know who actually introduced her to the clients she saw.

Just one of those things that even though she was a dominatrix, stripper, and pornstar that doesn’t mean being an exhibitionist means she’s good at companionship. Also her “mentor” wasn’t very good at it either.

I don’t take autobiographies as gospel because there can be a lot of truth stretching when she’s the author.

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[Sexaddict]

Asa Akira specifically only had a very short stint at providing, as she did not enjoy it/felt uncomfortable (according to her book)

"Insatiable: Porn A Love Story", is a book that I can recommend!

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[nzo]

It certainly wasn't as widely advertised or known (or maybe I was just too naive to ask). There used to not be the Internet, so the only girls I knew for certain had ads in, for the example, LA Xpress. That's how I met Veronica Brazil, Jade Marcela, and Kitten. As mentioned, feature dancing or signing events were about the only opportunities to interact and ask about providing. I really miss those days, so I think OnlyFans kind of put an end to an era since feature dancing is much less common now. Costs, I recall Alicia Rio in her prime quoting me $500 for oral, $800 for everything. I don't specifically recall Kitten's prices, but I think it was something like $300, and $500 if a duo with Vanessa Blue (keep in mind this was prior to her getting work done, so not quite as hot of a body). Pretty sure Kathy Willets quoted me $250 (and for whatever reason I passed). Shortly afterward, message boards such as this became a thing and prices escalated, Kathy was active on those boards and soon what was $250 became $1250.

Anyway, prices were better. Availability was an unknown and took some sleuthing or asking. A much smaller field to choose from. It was funner, because there was a bit of a chase involved and less post-nut clarity with the lower prices (even with taking inflation into account). Reviews didn't exist, so a crap-shoot as to whether the session would be any good or not.

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[Hentai_Hibiki]

One girl I saw of that vintage said it was more common for girls to go to Dubai on the down low because escorting was very frowned upon in the film industry.

I’d imagine back then it was also more for the elite VIP circles who could afford exorbitant rates and booked through very exclusive agents like Heidi Fleiss.

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[6lover9]

There was also a house in Silver Lake (LA area) where you could find porn star escorts. Walk in, see who was there, decide if you wanted to spend time with any of them. This would have been very late 90's - early 2000's

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[connman]

I can take you back to the 1990s and early 2000s. Note that by the early/mid 2000s there was already TER and agencies like TLC. At the time there was real money for a PS in the strip club feature tour. More often than not a top name PS would be the feature in clubs in LA (duh) and in NY. The clubs flew them in, put them up, and then made money on the increased attendance and the increased take they got from the lap dances which were 2x or 3x the usual price. To get an escort session with a PS took some cultivation at the club, some lap dances, being there multiple times. Once you got them to see you once it typically was a go for every time they were in town. Cost, even with inflation was waaaayyyyyyyy cheaper. Going rate was around $300/hr which is about $750 in today's dollars. Plus meets were either after they were done which almost always just led to an overnight for 1k or so or a late morning meet before they had to be at the club. They might be tired at the end of their shift, but you pretty much knew you were the only client either in the morning or at night. First gal I met this way was Victoria Paris. She in turn passed along introductions to her friends (and keep in mind the porn world was much smaller back then).

Some enterprising gals did have little ads in place like the village voice but never tried those, seemed dicey.

We started around the same time with porn stars and I agree with everything you have said here. Most every porn star still provided like today, it was just a little harder to find them. Sites like TER and TBD existed in the late 90's so information was available. Agencies were around in the 90's also. Body Miracle, Exxxpics2000(?), Pam Peaks, Heidi Fleiss. Rates were a little less with 1000 to 1200 being common. Many top porn stars of the time such as Holly Body would tour NY for 600-700. Those were the days. But the top A-list stars such as Ginger Lynn, Tera Patrick and the like would be as much as $10k UTR.

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[Townbizz54]

It was magical.

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[Hentai_Hibiki]

But the top A-list stars such as Ginger Lynn, Tera Patrick and the like would be as much as $10k UTR.

In that sense then top active stars today are a lot cheaper in that regard.

I wonder too if that kind of access and information was somewhat limited to certain cities like LA and NY.

I just remember being a young man in the 2000s in the South and being completely oblivious to all escorting until I saw the sex industry in Japan.

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[nzo]

There was also a house in Silver Lake (LA area) where you could find porn star escorts. Walk in, see who was there, decide if you wanted to spend time with any of them. This would have been very late 90's - early 2000's

I used to go see Angela D'Angelo there, saw her several times. Several other girls waiting around, Mia Domore? comes to mind. I didn't realize you could just walk in, I always had my encounters pre-arranged.

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[6lover9]

Prime Ginger Lynn (1985-1989, pre Charlie Sheen and jail stint for tax evasion) was my white whale. Had the connection I needed but neither timing or funding ever worked out lol
Rumor had it that Ginger was able to facilitate an introduction and a threesome with a very young Christy Canyon. No idea what that cost or if it was true.

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[connman]

In that sense then top active stars today are a lot cheaper in that regard.

I don't think that there are true porn stars today in the context of 20+ years ago. Today it's all gonzo scenes with interchangeable girls. Back then they were stars. There are no Jenna Jameson, Briana Banks, or Lisa Ann's anymore.

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[connman]

Rumor had it that Ginger was able to facilitate an introduction and a threesome with a very young Christy Canyon.

I was lucky enough to see Ginger in the early 2000's. Didn't know about the Cristy Canyon rumor though, that would have been nice.

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[Hentai_Hibiki]

I don't think that there are true porn stars today in the context of 20+ years ago. Today it's all gonzo scenes with interchangeable girls. Back then they were stars. There are no Jenna Jameson, Briana Banks, or Lisa Ann's anymore.

True, it was contract girls who were crème of the crop back then. Now it’s who can get viral to be top of OF. The studios are only used to marketing these days. Showcases and actual storylines (industry term escapes me at the moment) are all but gone.

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[shion]

I was lucky enough to see Ginger in the early 2000's. Didn't know about the Cristy Canyon rumor though, that would have been nice.

How was she ? I like her G/ G scenes

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[connman]

How was she ? I like her G/ G scenes

Ginger was so much fun. Still one of the best blow jobs I ever had. Easily one of the top 5 porn legends ever. After our fun, she bought me dinner at the steakhouse in her hotel. She has a million great stories about the porn industry back in the golden era. Amazing woman.

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[Throwawaydecent1]

Man, the escorting scene back in "the old days" seemed so much better considering that majority of women that were on porn sites escorted.
I was surprised to learn that many women on Milf Hunters and other milf sites were in fact escorts first that were just hired to shoot a scene.

Some of my favorite stars back in the day that escorted were:
Nicole Moore
Mason Storm
Rayveness
Holly Body
Cara Lott

Nicole Moore even had her own website where you could book her directly.

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