*sigh* Maddy O’Reilly Warning

[NJLover]

This one hurts to write just because I’ve had such a good level of engagement with her over the last few years, including a wonderful doubles session with...

This one hurts to write just because I’ve had such a good level of engagement with her over the last few years, including a wonderful doubles session with Jada Stevens (Porn Companions) in late October.

Don’t want to get into super specifics and I don’t want any help trying to recover my funds at this point. Just putting the warning out there. Be very wary about sending her any pre funds.

This wasn’t even a deposit issue. Days after our appointment in October, she reached out asking for a favor in the form of a very short term loan (literally 3 days) for a grand. Was weary, but I’ve worked with her for years and she’s asked for similar favors in the past (but usually before an already scheduled meeting). Against better judgement (and because I already wanted to ask her for a favor on a few high level introductions) I agreed and sent her the funds.

The minute I hit send, she started ghosting me for weeks at a time. I was very respectful and only followed up about once a week. When I finally got fed up after a few weeks, I got excuses. I said cool, just let me let me know when you think you can repay, and again ghosted. I had even offered up a scenario where she keeps half of the money in exchange for a few introductions. Said she would work on it, but again was ghosted.

Nearly 7 weeks later, I’m throwing in the towel and posting this warning.

I won’t post them publicly, but I have receipts for any mod that wants to validate this. Specifically the detailed text exchanges and proof of transmission of funds.

As always fellas, whether for a deposit or just trying to help out someone that you’ve engaged with for years, always follow the mantra:

I will only send funds out that I have no issue lighting on fire right now.

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[MM19]

Not the first or even second time I’ve heard of her doing stuff like this.

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[AmirHakim]

This one hurts to write just because I’ve had such a good level of engagement with her over the last few years, including a wonderful doubles session with Jada Stevens (Porn Companions) in late October.

Don’t want to get into super specifics and I don’t want any help trying to recover my funds at this point. Just putting the warning out there. Be very wary about sending her any pre funds.

This wasn’t even a deposit issue. Days after our appointment in October, she reached out asking for a favor in the form of a very short term loan (literally 3 days) for a grand. Was weary, but I’ve worked with her for years and she’s asked for similar favors in the past (but usually before an already scheduled meeting). Against better judgement (and because I already wanted to ask her for a favor on a few high level introductions) I agreed and sent her the funds.

The minute I hit send, she started ghosting me for weeks at a time. I was very respectful and only followed up about once a week. When I finally got fed up after a few weeks, I got excuses. I said cool, just let me let me know when you think you can repay, and again ghosted. I had even offered up a scenario where she keeps half of the money in exchange for a few introductions. Said she would work on it, but again was ghosted.

Nearly 7 weeks later, I’m throwing in the towel and posting this warning.

I won’t post them publicly, but I have receipts for any mod that wants to validate this. Specifically the detailed text exchanges and proof of transmission of funds.

As always fellas, whether for a deposit or just trying to help out someone that you’ve engaged with for years, always follow the mantra:

I will only send funds out that I have no issue lighting on fire right now.

You are honorable, for giving her the opportunity to be a decent human being. Seems like she doesn't know when to take an exit ramp. People are going through it financially, and you were more than accommodating. Thanks for the warning.

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[king-sama4u2nv]

Any of us would have done this. I have yet to go through this, but there are providers who I trust and would have sent money too without question. It's strange, because I've heard this happen so many times as a when a client is familiar with a provider yet they still have the audacity to do this. I don't see how this works on in their favor....

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[NJLover]

This is why I say (and all due respect to the providers on this platform who mostly seem like lovely people) that there is no actual friendship in these scenarios. You can be friendly. But in the end its a business relationship, not a personal one.

I know better. The only reason why I decided to take the risk is I was already planning on asking her for intros to some otherwise unattainable ladies. So even the favor was a calculated risk and potential transaction on my end.

Is what it is. Not even dunking on Maddy at this point, though I’ll absolutely never see her again in any capacity.

But its a good reenforcement to not delude yourself into thinking this is anything more than business. And unfortunately some people don’t know how to do business properly.

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[king-sama4u2nv]

This is why I say (and all due respect to the providers on this platform who mostly seem like lovely people) that there is no actual friendship in these scenarios. You can be friendly. But in the end its a business relationship, not a personal one.

I know better. The only reason why I decided to take the risk is I was already planning on asking her for intros to some otherwise unattainable ladies. So even the favor was a calculated risk and potential transaction on my end.

Is what it is. Not even dunking on Maddy at this point, though I’ll absolutely never see her again in any capacity.

But its a good reenforcement to not delude yourself into thinking this is anything more than business. And unfortunately some people don’t know how to do business properly.

This is all true. This is also the reason why I rather not get to close to providers after I've seen them. I keep everything transactional without the need to go further as much as I want to. There's stories like this that completely justify in me not wanting to go further then the transactional relationship.

I just don't get how the provider wins in this instant. Sure, you have an extra thousand dollars in your bank account but you easily lost out on any money the client would have spent on you after the fact. Then there's your reputation that even as bad as it is won't stop clients from booking, I for fuck sure am not, but this isn't something people will forget. It'll make anyone hesitant to book. I really don't fucking get it.

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[tinman]

Sorry this happened to you but it seems to be an ongoing trend with a lot of the providers .. must be the economy.

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[AmirHakim]

This is all true. This is also the reason why I rather not get to close to providers after I've seen them. I keep everything transactional without the need to go further as much as I want to. There's stories like this that completely justify in me not wanting to go further then the transactional relationship.

I just don't get how the provider wins in this instant. Sure, you have an extra thousand dollars in your bank account but you easily lost out on any money the client would have spent on you after the fact. Then there's your reputation that even as bad as it is won't stop clients from booking, I for fuck sure am not, but this isn't something people will forget. It'll make anyone hesitant to book. I really don't fucking get it.

The provider is just making an unnecessary enemy. But, I see people do this everyday. I remember a provider in Vegas telling me about a duo partner she cut-off because of even “light scamming” That provider cared about her reputation immensely, so she didn’t want to be involved in any drama. That light scammer provider is doing ten to twenty, as a client she played decided to put a private investigator on her, and saw she was connected to some drug dealers and well you guess the rest. However, when I hear stories like this, then Maddy would be on the no list. Keep it transactional and keep it moving. They need a loan, ask another performer or industry person.

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[Hentai_Hibiki]

Always assume that an individual loan is a gift until it is paid back in full. Goes for anyone: friends, family, and especially escorts. High pressure urgency is almost always a red flag.

Motivations to scam run as long as there’s excuses: drug habit, debt, poor financial skills, etc. Also some people can only see as far as their nose for the consequences of their bad behavior, they only care about short term payoffs.

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[ghost0]

This is why I say (and all due respect to the providers on this platform who mostly seem like lovely people) that there is no actual friendship in these scenarios. You can be friendly. But in the end its a business relationship, not a personal one.

I know better. The only reason why I decided to take the risk is I was already planning on asking her for intros to some otherwise unattainable ladies. So even the favor was a calculated risk and potential transaction on my end.

Is what it is. Not even dunking on Maddy at this point, though I’ll absolutely never see her again in any capacity.

But its a good reenforcement to not delude yourself into thinking this is anything more than business. And unfortunately some people don’t know how to do business properly.

This. This situation is a good reminder that the “relationships” we have with providers, no matter how friendly, are purely transactional.

Personally, I’m not answering any text message from a provider asking for money. Hell, I don’t even answer certain family members’ requests for money.

This is exactly why I keep it purely business with providers.

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[NJLover]

This. This situation is a good reminder that the “relationships” we have with providers, no matter how friendly, are purely transactional.

Personally, I’m not answering any text message from a provider asking for money. Hell, I don’t even answer certain family members’ requests for money.

This is exactly why I keep it purely business with providers.

Lol I’m 100% with you. My mind got fucked up with the idea of rare, future pussy

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[Hentai_Hibiki]

Lol I’m 100% with you. My mind got fucked up with the idea of rare, future pussy

We all chasing future pussy, the most addictive of all

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[shion]

This is all true. This is also the reason why I rather not get to close to providers after I've seen them. I keep everything transactional without the need to go further as much as I want to. There's stories like this that completely justify in me not wanting to go further then the transactional relationship.

I just don't get how the provider wins in this instant. Sure, you have an extra thousand dollars in your bank account but you easily lost out on any money the client would have spent on you after the fact. Then there's your reputation that even as bad as it is won't stop clients from booking, I for fuck sure am not, but this isn't something people will forget. It'll make anyone hesitant to book. I really don't fucking get it.

Definitely not any good business sense at all

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[shion]

Sorry this happened to you but it seems to be an ongoing trend with a lot of the providers .. must be the economy.

Nah, Vices ( sex, drugs, alcohol) survived any economy.

The price of poontang went up during covid

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[shion]

Always assume that an individual loan is a gift until it is paid back in full. Goes for anyone: friends, family, and especially escorts. High pressure urgency is almost always a red flag.

Motivations to scam run as long as there’s excuses: drug habit, debt, poor financial skills, etc. Also some people can only see as far as their nose for the consequences of their bad behavior, they only care about short term payoffs.

I Overlooked that word....LOAN.

Loaning a hooker money doesn't even sound right....still she did him wrong.

I understand why a Lotta guys go " mercenary " and treat escorts like common street walkers.

You try to bring some integrity into the game and folks don't know how to act.

You can't be nice to them. They see it as a sign of weakness or something

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[king-sama4u2nv]

This. This situation is a good reminder that the “relationships” we have with providers, no matter how friendly, are purely transactional.

Personally, I’m not answering any text message from a provider asking for money. Hell, I don’t even answer certain family members’ requests for money.

This is exactly why I keep it purely business with providers.

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[Hentai_Hibiki]

The price of poontang went up during covid

Mainly because the price of rent and everything else went up too

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[connman]

Lotta guys go " mercenary " and treat escorts like common street walkers.

This is true. And a lot of providers treat us as "tricks" because of a few dickhead clients. It's a shame there are so many bad actors on both sides that give us good people hesitation. What really sucks is that someone like @NJLover who was just trying to help someone will think twice in the future because of things like this.

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[Hentai_Hibiki]

What really sucks is that someone like @NJLover who was just trying to help someone will think twice in the future because of things like this.

Even if a girl’s intentions are good and actually pays it all back, it’s extremely unprofessional IMO to treat clients like a personal piggy bank for a zero interest loan.

And the odds are if they know you’ll do it once, they’ll try to see if you’ll do it again.

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[king-sama4u2nv]

Even if a girl’s intentions are good and actually pays it all back, it’s extremely unprofessional IMO to treat clients like a personal piggy bank for a zero interest loan.

And the odds are if they know you’ll do it once, they’ll try to see if you’ll do it again.

Even if she pays it back and @NJLover gives us the all clear that it was paid back, as you said it's unprofessional. This is going to be something known about her reputation for as long as she provides.

Worst part is, this hurts anyone that actually needs help in the future wanting to work out an arrangement.

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