How did this happen to me??? 😍

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Man do people really think escorts, pornstars, etc... really like them?

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[Swytypy]

Man do people really think escorts, pornstars, etc... really like them?

Yes. Because porn star and escort are job titles. At their core, they're human beings. And human beings form connections, especially when they have intimate encounters. And while they generally keep in touch with us to keep us interested in more bookings to make money, knowing we'll be more likely to book if they show an interest whether they have one or not, there are genuine connections and friendships that can form. If that's not something you want, then that's what's good for you. If it's something that hasn't happened to you yet but you'd like it if it did happen, then that's sad. Because it's awesome when it happens. And I know the difference.

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[sezz66]

I can't get invested in them because when they hit me, it's usually like...



I got a unread message sitting on my phone and I already know what it says without reading it. Props to you sir

That's the treatment I got when I tried the sugar baby route. Some women really think just getting texts from them, or letting you buy them dinner, is a big favor to you.

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[sezz66]

Just like we get post-nut clarity, sometimes the ladies give out their cells and then say "shit, I don't want him texting me" and then ghost you. Although that's apparently only happened to me once now.

Now you're giving me flashbacks to being in school

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[hundredpac]

I’ve seen 3 porn stars and 2 have given me their numbers. I got lucky with those 2 and we’ve been pretty friendly the past year or so. They’ve told me things about their personal lives and have “confided” in me with some stuff. Everyone wants to be seen as more than a hole. Just remember to not catch feelings when you text and they don’t respond or when they do set a boundary. Peoples lives change it’s normal.

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[sezz66]

Everyone wants to be seen as more than a hole. Just remember to not catch feelings when you text and they don’t respond or when they do set a boundary. Peoples lives change it’s normal.

This man speaks the truth. You can't take this stuff personally. If this is all more than a fun escape for you, you're probably doing it wrong.

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[Swytypy]

I’ve seen 3 porn stars and 2 have given me their numbers. I got lucky with those 2 and we’ve been pretty friendly the past year or so. They’ve told me things about their personal lives and have “confided” in me with some stuff. Everyone wants to be seen as more than a hole. Just remember to not catch feelings when you text and they don’t respond or when they do set a boundary. Peoples lives change it’s normal.

Yes, this! Remembering context and having situational awareness is critical in any relationship, especially one like this.

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[SlyJr]

That's the treatment I got when I tried the sugar baby route. Some women really think just getting texts from them, or letting you buy them dinner, is a big favor to you.

Which is why I keep it the way it's suppose to be, strictly business. They don't give a damn about me.

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[Swytypy]

Which is why I keep it the way it's suppose to be, strictly business. They don't give a damn about me.

Not entirely true, at least not always. I have a genuine friendship and keep in touch semi-regularly with one in particular, and I'm fairly sure she and I are on the same page that our booking days are behind us.

And for those I may want to book again, what's wrong with her showing an interest and pretending to care more than she does. It's an extension of the booking, where she pretends to love/lust me more than she does. As long as I know what she's in it for, what harm does it do? Don't catch the feels, recognize it for what it is and enjoy it for what it is.

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[Solitaire]

Gentleman, once you hit VIP status as a client in the pornstar escort world these ladies sliding into your DM's and text happen on the regular naturally.

You couldn't IMAGINE who has slid into my DM's on both X and IG. This doesn't include ladies I have already seen who have exchanged cell numbers and also text me on the regular to stay connected. I'm no fool. I understand the purpose of them reaching out is to continue contact so that we can meet again and have a good time. Same goes for those who slide in my DM's that I haven't met yet. These ladies talk and they know I'm not just a wham bam 1hr guy. I'm a multiple hour let's go out have a great evening gift buying guy.

I'm at the status where I have already been on one REAL date (off clock/no fee) with a pornstar and have one more potential date with a different pornstar in the coming weeks. These ladies know I'm single, they are single, and we are exploring the possibility of potentially evolving into something more serious.

First date went great. Romantic upscale dinner by the coast. Made a reservation and slipped the hostess $$ to provide us the best view so she could see the sunset. Prior to dinner, champagne at her place to get the first date jitters off. After dinner strolled the costal shops, then back to her place. When all was said and done we both are looking at our calendars for date #2.

My first date with the second young woman is still in the planning stages. Me being an executive and her active in the industry takes some time to lock in.

I write this not to brag and/or boast but to let you know ANYTHING is possible if you step up your game and invest in more than just wanting to fuck. The bare minimum will get you the bare minimum. If you want to build a relationship that's exactly what you have to do "build it". Make yourself stand out from everyone else. Book multiple hours and take them out somewhere nice. Treat them with respect and kindness. If you buy them a gift it doesn't have to be expensive it's a thought that counts. Many of you don't realize this is how many of them also date.

I hope this motivates and encourages you to take that leap and spend a little more coin.

I’m just a kid from New Orleans trying to get a PhD and do porn to stay afloat/do my research without strings attached. I’m funny but I ain’t that damn funny. Can’t make up for being an executive today.

That said you ain’t gotta be rich to be generous and take care of your people. So I’ll try to keep you in mind as I proceed forward. I make enough to see the occasional PS or to save up to invest in my own endeavors. That’s why I’m on here ofc: for intel on whose best to take a chance on.

Eventually I’ll get to your status, in my own way. And I look forward to comparing notes then. Best of luck to you. Take care and be well.

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[hundredpac]

Not entirely true, at least not always. I have a genuine friendship and keep in touch semi-regularly with one in particular, and I'm fairly sure she and I are on the same page that our booking days are behind us.

like you don’t want to see her anymore or that you can just go direct to her?

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[hundredpac]

Which is why I keep it the way it's suppose to be, strictly business. They don't give a damn about me.

I know they don’t and eventually we will never talk again BUT for now it’s fun. Like I said just don’t catch feelings.

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[Solitaire]

Not entirely true, at least not always. I have a genuine friendship and keep in touch semi-regularly with one in particular, and I'm fairly sure she and I are on the same page that our booking days are behind us.

And for those I may want to book again, what's wrong with her showing an interest and pretending to care more than she does. It's an extension of the booking, where she pretends to love/lust me more than she does. As long as I know what she's in it for, what harm does it do? Don't catch the feels, recognize it for what it is and enjoy it for what it is.

Ok question from the local autistic dude. How do you tell for sure? Gimme two or three clear signs that you’ve hit the break point where the lines are no longer merely blurred to entice profit flowing from you to her, but an actual connection?

Because right now, my default stance for everyone new in my life is “не верь, не бойся, не проси: Don’t trust, don’t fear, don’t beg.” Coincidently a Russian prison saying, allegedly the creed of the GRU Spetsnaz soldier during Soviet times, and a hit song by t.a.T.u. You remember those fake Russian lesbians they had on MTV right? Ya them girls.

I’m already at a disadvantage socially on a neurological level. I also have higher priorities than love, and I really don’t have time to be slowed down by anyone. Yet I don’t want my bullshit to cause me to ignore a potential genuine friendship, or anything else. Because, you know, I like making real friends. I don’t wanna treat or view someone as a piece of meat, as “the merchandise” to use a real fucked up euphemism imparted on me by a former Army Intel friend of mine.

See my dilemma? I gotta take my time to vet people. And it’s one thing to meet someone on set or to become one of their colleagues (a future hope, not my current status), it’s another to escape the mental cage that every client is put into by default. Cause they can’t do their job without keeping up a wall either.

Anyway I’ll let my boy Haddaway take it away. Let me know if you know what he’s asking about. Peace.

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[SlyJr]

Not entirely true, at least not always. I have a genuine friendship and keep in touch semi-regularly with one in particular, and I'm fairly sure she and I are on the same page that our booking days are behind us.

And for those I may want to book again, what's wrong with her showing an interest and pretending to care more than she does. It's an extension of the booking, where she pretends to love/lust me more than she does. As long as I know what she's in it for, what harm does it do? Don't catch the feels, recognize it for what it is and enjoy it for what it is.

I understand where you coming, but for me, I don't need the illusion of genuine interest in me to book again. If the service provided was on point, more than likely I'm going in for seconds and thirds. But blurring the lines with a "friendship" is not the move for me. Some have "confided" in me and "let their guard down" but its all a means to an end. I'm pretty sure your situation with shorty is different. I'm just speaking to my run-ins with those that have given me their number.

I will say tho, there is one or two though that I genuinely wished I met casually because the chemistry is definitely there and it's not even about the sex...

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[Swytypy]

like you don’t want to see her anymore or that you can just go direct to her?

Wouldn't want to book her. Had a blast with her, get along really well, have a bunch in common, text and talk occasionally, but feel like we're just friends. Spending money to have sex with her doesn't appeal to me. And even though she might be able to disassociate better and would want me to book her so she could make money, and not care about the real friendship we have, I actually think she'd also feel better if we stayed friends. I'd rather spend my money on new experiences or on repeats with women I connected with in different ways. If she offered sex for free as friends with benefits, I'd even hesitate, but probably accept because she's really good at sex

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[Solitaire]

I’ve seen 3 porn stars and 2 have given me their numbers. I got lucky with those 2 and we’ve been pretty friendly the past year or so. They’ve told me things about their personal lives and have “confided” in me with some stuff. Everyone wants to be seen as more than a hole. Just remember to not catch feelings when you text and they don’t respond or when they do set a boundary. Peoples lives change it’s normal.

In my experience, an escort confiding in and possibly trauma bonding with a client makes the client that much more pliable to manipulation and coercion. People are human beings and I’ve met escorts who’ve done things for me that no one else in that line of work would.

And I’ve also met the ones who use and abuse people in order to survive. Even a professional who’s gotten their shit straight I believe is far more likely to view you as a paycheck and/or a retirement plan option, than as a mate. Let alone a more amoral or desperate type of person.

“Friendly, not friends” might be the best we can hope for, with astronomically rare exceptions. They’re mercenaries and so are we. Exceptions to the rule always exist. Let me know if you figured out how to be one.

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[lucky_at_one_time]

Gentleman, once you hit VIP status as a client in the pornstar escort world these ladies sliding into your DM's and text happen on the regular naturally.

You couldn't IMAGINE who has slid into my DM's on both X and IG. This doesn't include ladies I have already seen who have exchanged cell numbers and also text me on the regular to stay connected. I'm no fool. I understand the purpose of them reaching out is to continue contact so that we can meet again and have a good time. Same goes for those who slide in my DM's that I haven't met yet. These ladies talk and they know I'm not just a wham bam 1hr guy. I'm a multiple hour let's go out have a great evening gift buying guy.

I'm at the status where I have already been on one REAL date (off clock/no fee) with a pornstar and have one more potential date with a different pornstar in the coming weeks. These ladies know I'm single, they are single, and we are exploring the possibility of potentially evolving into something more serious.

First date went great. Romantic upscale dinner by the coast. Made a reservation and slipped the hostess $$ to provide us the best view so she could see the sunset. Prior to dinner, champagne at her place to get the first date jitters off. After dinner strolled the costal shops, then back to her place. When all was said and done we both are looking at our calendars for date #2.

My first date with the second young woman is still in the planning stages. Me being an executive and her active in the industry takes some time to lock in.

I write this not to brag and/or boast but to let you know ANYTHING is possible if you step up your game and invest in more than just wanting to fuck. The bare minimum will get you the bare minimum. If you want to build a relationship that's exactly what you have to do "build it". Make yourself stand out from everyone else. Book multiple hours and take them out somewhere nice. Treat them with respect and kindness. If you buy them a gift it doesn't have to be expensive it's a thought that counts. Many of you don't realize this is how many of them also date.

I hope this motivates and encourages you to take that leap and spend a little more coin.

This is a good advice and I have a huge respect for you, you are a gold standard for clients and for modern / upcoming who wants to enter the hobby. A huge salute for you @oc.businessman.33

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[Swytypy]

I understand where you coming, but for me, I don't need the illusion of genuine interest in me to book again. If the service provided was on point, more than likely I'm going in for seconds and thirds. But blurring the lines with a "friendship" is not the move for me. Some have "confided" in me and "let their guard down" but its all a means to an end. I'm pretty sure your situation with shorty is different. I'm just speaking to my run-ins with those that have given me their number.

I will say tho, there is one or two though that I genuinely wished I met casually because the chemistry is definitely there and it's not even about the sex...

Every single PS escort I've seen has "let their guard down". Sometimes, I see it as genuine bonding and being real. Sometimes I see it as them pretending to bond with me to make me feel better and sometimes I see it as pretending to tell me things about them that aren't even true so we can make small talk, either to pretend like we're bonding or to kill time. I don't feel like I really get the last 2 because I feel like I'm liked and respected, and from what I hear from the bookers I work with, I have gotten excellent feedback. But I don't assume everyone who opens up to me is telling me the truth just to be open and vulnerable. And I feel badly for anyone who doesn't recognize that and thinks everyone is being vulnerable and open. I'm not saying it's impossible that's what's happening, just that it's unlikely to happen every time.

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[Fialcapmode]

Yes. Because porn star and escort are job titles. At their core, they're human beings. And human beings form connections, especially when they have intimate encounters. And while they generally keep in touch with us to keep us interested in more bookings to make money, knowing we'll be more likely to book if they show an interest whether they have one or not, there are genuine connections and friendships that can form. If that's not something you want, then that's what's good for you. If it's something that hasn't happened to you yet but you'd like it if it did happen, then that's sad. Because it's awesome when it happens. And I know the difference.

She likes what you do for her. Stop doing that, and she'll show 0 interest in you.

These women are professionals and make their money off of providing a fantasy for you. Some enjoy it and others it's just a means to an end.

So just enjoy the fantasy/entertainment but don't crash-out over these women.

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[sezz66]

Reading all this has me rethinking just getting a regular boring gf

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